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It won't be long now. The much anticipated Roadskater.net 2008 jerseys should be here fairly soon.
What color will they be? Any guesses?
Will the mysterious Blake give any clues or will he continue to play it close to the vest like an enigmatic world series of poker player, wrapped up in infinitely stealthy 'Blakeness?'
Only time will tell.
Word on the street is Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger and Blake are in negotiations on a new line to be introduced Spring of '09. Seems the deal hinges on whether Sir Blake is willing to be the primary runway model.
Okay, so I made that last part up, WTH, that's funny stuff.
Anyway, whatever the color - I can't wait to get mine.
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Skateaway, that's all
New Jerseys?
I ordered two
I'm sure you can get one Marianne, but just in case - I personally ordered two mediums, one regular T and one sleeveless, so if you can't get one just let me know.
Thank you
Thanks so much for your generous offer to give up a jersey for me. I will let you know if Sir Blake ;) can’t find one for me :).
Canadians Welcome, As Are All
Has anyone heard..
Team Roadskater.net knows no borders
mystery color - revealed!
The Tobacco We See is a Different Color
imaginary colors
Somewhat off-topic, but I'm reminded of an article I just read explaining how pink/magenta isn't a color... The article is a bit misleading -- if it's not a color, then what is it? Rather, there's no frequency of light that corresponds to magenta... Very odd... It's just how our brains happen to interpret a certain combination of light stimuli...
http://www.null-hypothesis.co.uk/science/strange-but-true/profs-probings...
- SM -
Now I have green dots in front of my eyes
Cool article, Skatey-Mark. Short enough for me to actually read all the way through. Although staring at the magenta dot proved virtually impossible with all that other internet stimuli screaming for my attention on the page. At the risk of sounding (even more) ignorant (that I already do)...if 'they' say we perceive color simply as our particular species' brains can process, how can they say there's no such thing as magenta? And isn't everything we see upside down, too...or was my physics teacher just pulling my leg? I haven't read up on it but I'm sure other animals would beg to differ based on their particular retina and communication skills. If only they could talk, indeed!
Maybe the jersey will be ultraviolet or infrared. Although I like Mike's guess of the image of Blake's head on the jersey...perhaps Andy Warhol style.
Colors
IMHO: It's quite easy to say just about anything--if you're a nitwit.
That article seems to hinge on selling the idea that "color" and "frequency" are the same things. But of course they aren't. There's no reason to think that our visual system was ever about being able to measure frequencies of electromagnetic radiation. It's about being able to distinguish ripe (red) berries from unripe (green) berries and stuff like that. We sense color by weighting the responses of three difference types of light-sensing rods, each sensitive to different parts of the visible spectrum. That's a lot different from measuring the frequency of light, and in fact very different combinations of light spectra can produce exactly the same perceived color in a human who sees them.
And check out qualia, the philosophical concept of "the ways things seem to us"--"qualities or sensations, like redness or pain, as considered independently of their effects on behavior and from whatever physical circumstances give rise to them." Philosophers have been arguing for ages about whether it even makes sense to claim the existence of such "what it's like" things--as actual entities apart from physical causes and the observable behaviors that result from them. But here you're getting into the realm of what the meaning of "is" is; and we saw how much trouble Bill Clinton got into with that.
Yes: "What Birds See", Scientific American July 2006. Also, there are obviously some significant differences between how people with normal trichromatic vision experience colors and what colorblind people see looking at the same things. And there has been some research interest lately as to whether women who have coding for slightly different red or green cones on each of their two X chromosomes might be functioning "tetrachromats" with different color perception abilities than us mere trichromats.
Oh, and yeah, of course the images formed by the lenses of our eyes on our retinas are upside-down--just as in every camera and every telescope. (Not binoculars--they have prisms inside to turn things back to upright.) However we see things perfectly right-side-up. We don't watch what our eyes show us. (This is the "Homunculus Argument", aka the "Cartesian Theater" fallacy.) Our eyes are part of us and we see as they see.
Is it Pink or Is it Magenta, Pantone or Process, the RSN Logo
Good stuff timv even if I don't understand it all, ha! One reason I don't like to TELL the color but like the jersey subscriber to SEE it first is that if I say a jersey is (insert a color) that is highly open to interpretation. In the article mentioned above in fact, the author used turquoise where I would have definitely said cyan (the primary light mixing colors being red, green, blue and printing colors being cyan, magenta, yellow, with black added to make blacks really very black even if ink distributions among the CMY are not even. This is CMYK, where the K is for black. I don't know if they said pink for magenta, but that's another biggie.
And if you find a Pantone color book, look up the color rhodamine red and tell me what color you think that is!? And look at Pantone Red and tell me if that is what you thought when you heard it was red.
Another interesting thing is that some Pantone colors can't really be made well simply using the CMYK "process" colors. These colors are deemed "outside the gamut" of the CMYK process, and this why when a company or a skateylovin' website wants to get a color spot on, they turn to Pantone inks (or clones if there are any) and use the Pantone numbers to talk about such stuff on the phone and in emails and such. Pantone (Pantone Matching System) uses 14 basic colors and makes the other colors mostly by mixing those: They all start with the word PANTONE and they are:
While it's not mentioned in the Basic colors, there's another trick, and that is:
This is the main secret to the idea of the Roadskate.net jerseys. The idea is to create an overlay of the same color in various lightnesses like a monochrome stained glass window. I had an idea in mind that would use the RSN logo for the swirls but we needed something in a hurry so I went with the closest design I could find and modified that.
The swirls are like coffee cup swirls that led to the idea of the RSN logo which is supposed to swirl into an infinity symbol that encapsulates the RSN or RN as you prefer, either way (so the S can be an S or it can be an infinity sign, skateylove yes!). The loops of the R and N are inverted and flipped to suggest vaguely the yinyang and it's supposed to look computer graphic but hand drawn inkish. I bet I've written all of this before!
Pantone has a modified CMYK process as well called Hexachrome, with six colors: yellow, orange, magenta, cyan, green, black.
Using a Pantone color swatch book is a great aid when talking about colors, but if your printer uses CMYK you may fall in love with colors they can't produce well. This is one reason you can't always just pick any color but need to pick among ones they present in their basic options. A good printer or jersey maker will try to hit that color you want, but will also admit it when they know they aren't matching that color swatch in the book.
Pink? I think of pink as red that got mixed up with white, rather than magenta that's still strong but just caught halfway between blue and red. But that's just me thinking about colors as people in a color space. Violet's not shrinking at all if unfiltered and just more blue than Purple, who leans red but not far.
Hey who put that typo in my post?!
Microsoft didn't catch 'that' - probably because I never use spellcheck, but my eyes didn't see that 'that' three whole times and now it's too late to edit.
"...as to whether women who have coding for slightly different red or green cones on each of their two X chromosomes might be functioning "tetrachromats" with different color perception abilities than us mere trichromats."
I'm pretty sure I'm a woman who missed out on those cones, as well as the interior-decorachromats. I'm sure there are many on both sides who'd back that 'tetrachromats' study.
Those philosophical musings usually leave me with the desire to aspire to absolutely nothing, since it's my life after all (or is it?) and therefore why bother? Sort of like the vacuum cleaner that vacuums itself up in that one Pink Panther cartoon.
Great answers, Timv, thanks! And plenty to read up on.
Excellent Jersey Fun
Come Skate With Us and Get a First Look
NO Colour (CAN spelling) :)
Perfect! It's the emperor's color/colour
Everybody's Favorite Color (or is it Favourite Colour)
Love the 2008 RSN color/colour
Tell me the colour!
Ah… your description of the awesome, fit right on, fabric to cool and weightless jersey, sounds very much like it has the colour “invisible”. Ha
Mountain Ash, Firethorn, Bittersweet Oriental Berries, More
and it has no rhyme
Wow! Your prose is such that I think I've found some great words and lines for my personal eulogy.
Quite frankly, between you an eebee, you both have a gift and could certainly dethrone Dr. Maya Angelou as our local Poet Laureate of Roadskaters.
Now if you could just find a word from the English language that rhymes with the color of the new jersey. I think you'll be hard pressed. Best I can remember, there are only 3 or 4 words that have no rhymes.
You are TOO Perceptive
Excellent perception!
No but truly, I really like it a lot and plan to show it off to the cows and squirrels this weekend on my backroad / countryroad skate!
"Sleeveless" - where are you now?
That IS a great photo!
"Nice to see Skatey-Mark modeling the new look on his personal pic."
I agree! That is a great photo with Mark also modeling his hard-earned afterglow.
Sleeveless Saga Slogs Along, "Languid and Bitterweet"
Steely Prince
*** Threadjack alert! ***
So I had to go look up 'languid and bittersweet' and was intrigued to learn Prince must've paid tribute to Steely Dan in "1999":
I cried when I wrote this song
Sue me if I play too long
This brother is free
I'll be what I want to be
Probably old hat to those who grew up in the US!
Anyway, I love the idea of the roadskater.net jersey quilt!
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Roadskater.net sleeveless jersey has arrived
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